November 16–22

This weekly feature is dedicated to Adventists who are looking for biblical insights into the topics discussed in the Sabbath School lesson quarterly. We post articles which address each lesson as presented in the Sabbath School Bible Study Guide, including biblical commentary on them. We hope you find this material helpful and that you will come to know Jesus and His revelation of Himself in His word in profound biblical ways.

 

Lesson 8: “God and the Covenant”

This week’s lesson deals with covenants, and although it contains some good points, it shows a remarkable lack of understanding of the Biblical covenants.

One result of that lack is the Adventist confusion over the difference between the Old Covenant and the New. In Adventist theology, the New is just the Old, polished up, expanded and propped up by Jesus’ blood. This is wildly inaccurate and seems to be done in an effort to insert the “very words of the covenant”, otherwise known as the 10 Commandments, into the New Covenant in order to put us under the requirements of the 4th commandment as well as a select few of the food laws.

The Bible is quite clear that what God wrote on the stone with His finger, and which Moses later wrote on the replacement tablets (Exodus 34:28; Deut. 9:11, 13, 15; 1 Kings 8:9, 21) were “the words of the covenant”.

For a more in-depth study of the covenants I would recommend the article by Dale Ratzlaff titled “The Covenants: The Continental Divide of Biblical Interpretation”.

 

The Idea of the Covenant

At the beginning of the lesson, there is this question:  “Who is making this covenant, and why did they enter into it?”

I’m not sure why it is stated this way. The people were not “making” a covenant; rather, they were promising to obey the covenant God had previously made with Israel. It was the breaking of this covenant by their forefathers that had led to the Babylonian captivity. From Ezra’s reading of the Law, they would have known this fact, and they were promising to obey the covenant previously made between God and the Children of Israel at Mt. Horeb.

 

Covenants in History

The list of covenants in this section is not complete, and it ignores several important ones. So, before we discuss the covenants, it would be good to review all of the covenants in the Bible.

1. The Eternal covenant

This is first mentioned in Hebrews 13:20. This is the redemptive covenant between the Father and the Son where the Son agreed to be the sacrifice for sin in our place. The fulfillment of this covenant brings us into peace with God as it provides complete payment for our sins, making us right with Him.

2. The Edenic covenant

This is found in Genesis 2:16, 17 and it was made between God and the newly created man. It had one stipulation—don’t eat of the one tree, and it had one penalty for disobedience—death on “the very day” of disobedience (v 17). The Bible never calls this agreement a “covenant”, but it had the effect of a covenant and stated the terms God gave Adam and Eve for remaining in relationship with Him.

Since Adam and Eve lived many hundreds of years after they disobeyed, it is obvious that it was not physical death that was guaranteed. Their separation from a Holy God who cannot abide in the presence of sin resulted in the death of their spirits. God is the source of life and separation from Him is, by definition, spiritual death.

3. The Adamic covenant

Found in Genesis 3:14-19, after the fall, it deals with fallen man’s life on the earth. It included several points, or penalties, for the disobedience of Adam and Eve:

  1. The serpent, the tool used by Satan, was cursed v.14
  2. The first promise of a Redeemer was given v. 15
  3. A change is seen in the status of women v. 16. (I have read arguments over whether these consequences constituted an order from God, or merely a prediction of what would result from sin. Either way, He knew these things would happen as the result of sin.)
  4. The earth itself was also put under the curse v. 17-19
  5. Physical death was promised along with the spiritual death resulting from separation from God v. 19

4. The Noaic covenant

In Genesis 8:20–9:6, this covenant included a unilateral promise from God and also set up a form of human government.

First, God promised to never again flood the whole earth and He gave the rainbow as the sign of that promise. Notice that there was no obedience required by man.

Then, the basics of human government were laid out, including the use of capital punishment with the administration of that penalty resting in the organized state, not the individual 9:5-6.

Also included, in verse 26, was the promise of future redemption through the line of Shem.

5. The Abrahamic covenant in Gen. 12:1-3 and later confirmed with Abraham in 13:14-17, 15:1-7 and 17:1-8.

This was the covenant of promise to Abraham of land, descendants, and blessing.

The blessing to the world through Christ is mentioned in Galatians 3:16, and Jesus Himself referred to His fulfillment of this promise in John 8:56-58.

6. The Mosaic covenant, also known as the Old Covenant

This was a legal covenant made solely with Israel (Deut. 5:3). It included not only the 10 Commandments but also the religious ordinances pointing forward to the Messiah and the entire range of social laws to govern their nation.

This was a conditional covenant, unlike the others. The fulfillment of the other covenants depended solely on the truthfulness and dependability of God with no human obedience required.

Rather, this one was what 2 Corinthians 3:7–9 calls a ministry of condemnation and death, whose purpose was to point out sin and point Israel forward to the coming Messiah. It demanded the impossible. Fallen man is utterly unable to obey or to achieve the perfection required by God, so this covenant was impossible for man to obey. Instead, it’s purpose is to point us—drive us—to the cross where the Messiah did what we cannot do.

It also included the tabernacle services which set aside the guilt of sin until the full payment for sin could be paid by the Messiah.

7. The Palestinian—land—covenant in Deut. 30:1-10

This one is not always included in a list of the covenants but it is an important and far-reaching agreement that started with Israel’s ownership of the land.

It also included:

  1. the prophecy of a future dispersion because of disobedience v. 1
  2. future repentance during the exile v. 2
  3. restoration to the land v 4-5
  4. a future national conversion v. 6
  5. judgment and punishment on Israel’s enemies who hate them v. 7
  6. prosperity of the nation v. 9 where God says He will “rejoice over you for good”.

The last three are still future to us and are to happen during the last days, during and after the Tribulation.

This covenant is conveniently overlooked by those who subscribe to the heretical idea of replacement theology, and by those who would claim Israel’s land as their own; but the fulfillment of this covenant is guaranteed by the New Covenant. To say that God has permanently rejected Israel as a nation and a people and replaced them with the Church is to call God a liar! See Romans 9-11.

8. The Davidic covenant

In 2 Samuel 7 and 1 Chronicles 17 is the guarantee of the permanent rule of the One from the “house of David”. It also includes an eternal kingdom to be ruled by David’s descendant, Jesus.

The certainty of this promise was restated in Psalm 89:30-37 and then again to Mary in Luke 1:31-33.

The fulfillment of this was in Christ as the Savior of the world and Israel’s coming King. This future reign of this descendant of David will be on earth during the Millennial reign of Jesus on the throne of David.

See Revelation 19:16 where Jesus, on the occasion of His second coming is called, “King of Kings” and in Revelation 20 where He is seated on the throne of judgment followed by the 1,000-year reign on earth with the saints.

9. The New Covenant

This one is mentioned in both the Old and the New Testaments in places like Jeremiah 31, Matthew 26:28, Mark 14, Luke 22, and Hebrews 8. This is a covenant of unconditional blessing based not on our works or accomplishments but on the finished redemptive work of Christ. It brings blessing for the church promised in the Abrahamic covenant (Gal 3:13-20) and also guarantees all of the previously promised covenant blessings to Israel.

This covenant is not conditional but rather is based on the truthfulness and reliability of God Himself and is irreversible once entered. There is no “work” for us to do to enter that covenant; all that is required is to believe in Jesus, the One “whom the Father has sent” (John 6:28, 29).

Now that we have reviewed the covenants in the Bible, let’s look at what the lesson says about them:

Each of the covenants mentioned above, although unique, bore the imprint of “the everlasting covenant.” Just as the everlasting gospel is first announced in Genesis 3:15, but then progressively revealed throughout the Bible, the same applies to the everlasting covenant. Each consecutive covenant serves to expound and deepen our understanding of the everlasting covenant of love, which is revealed most fully in the plan of salvation. The New and Old Covenants, as they are often distinguished, contain the same components.

This sounds good on the surface, but if you know anything about the Adventist understanding of the Old and New Covenants, you can see how they are merged into one. The New is understood to be the Old, just “written on our hearts” instead of on stone. It is quite subtle in the quote above, but the author has to put it that way in order to follow the teachings of his belief system.

This interpretation is further underscored by the list of elements that the author says are included in the successive covenants.

It is interesting to note that the quotes from Jeremiah, reiterated by the verses in Hebrews, speak specifically to “the house of Israel”. That is the nation of Israel—the Jews—which God promised to never abandon (Romans 9-11). To attempt to remove them from God’s hand and replace them with the Church is to call God a liar, and that is something that a child of God and a student of the Bible must never do. And yet, Ellen White, supposedly hearing directly from God, calls the Church “the Israel of God” 176 times! And whenever she wrote about the fulfillment of the promises to Israel, she puts them into the context of the Church.

God’s promises to Israel are called an “everlasting covenant” and must be accepted as just that. See: 1 Chron. 16:17; Ps. 105:10; Isaiah 24:5; Ezekiel 16:60; Gen 17:7 and 19 for just a few references.

In all the verses that mention the covenant and call it “everlasting”, there is not one that has any words or even a suggestion that it is conditional on their obedience, or that those promises can be annulled by Israel’s disobedience. The only conditional aspects of it are the blessings for obedience and the curses that will follow disobedience.

If you believe that God tells the truth, then you have to take Him at His word when He calls His covenant with Abraham and his descendants “everlasting”. If you can’t believe that, how can you believe any of His promises to the Church?

It’s interesting that element #3, Mission, is describing the Israel-centered conditions during the Millennium where Jesus will rule the world from Jerusalem “with a rod of iron” (Rev. 2:27; 12:5; 19:15), and everyone will know about God. Many will still reject Him in the end, a state which will bring about their final judgment at the end of that time when the devil is released from the pit and he and his great army are cast into the Lake of Fire.

 

Covenantal Structure

From the lesson, in trying to define a covenant:

It expresses the covenant in the following manner: (1) preamble (Deut. 1:1–5); (2) historical prologue (Deut. 1:6–4:43); (3) stipulations or laws (Deut. 4:44–26:19); (4) blessings and curses (Deuteronomy 27–30); (5) witnesses (Deut. 30:19); and finally, (6) special provision (Deut. 31:9–13).

While that pattern was typical of a covenant between a conquering overlord and the people under his rule, not all covenants in the Bible are laid out this way.

For instance, the Noaic covenant is simply God stating that He will never again destroy the whole world by water, and there are no special provisions or expected behavior from the people. It is stated as a simple promise.

That description above quoted from the lesson is a clear outline of the Old Covenant God made with Israel and it contains all of the 6 points listed.

Notice that #3 lists the “stipulations or laws” for the conquered people which they were expected to obey. The laws contained in the 10 Commandments—what the Bible calls “the words of the covenant”—and were specifically for the people under that covenant. On this side of the cross we are under the New Covenant, and to put yourself back under the Old is to put yourself back into the covenant of death.

 

Pledges

From the lesson:

If the Israelite nation was going to get on the right path, it had to establish practices and habits that would be conducive to where it wanted to be. If the people wanted to have a close walk with God, then making the Sabbath important and taking care of the temple were important steps in that direction. Unfortunately, they didn’t keep their pledges very well….

This is an odd claim as it reduces obedience to the previously given covenant to a casual need to behave the right way rather than the necessity of strict obedience to all of the Law as given to Moses. This involved so much more than “habits that would be conducive to where it wanted to be”. Remember, with the Mosaic covenant, it was strict obedience that brought the blessings promised, not a “closer walk”.

This from the lesson: “Yet, even if everyone didn’t keep them, some or many people did. “

This points out another problem with confusing the Old Covenant with the New. In the Old, what was required was corporate obedience, not personal. Even the ones who may have been true to God were still taken to Babylon—like Daniel.

And the sins of one man could affect the whole nation. This was illustrated in Joshua 7 by the sin of Achan when the Children of Israel took Jericho. He kept some items, and the consequences to the entire camp were their defeat when they tried to take the city of Ai, and the death of 36 men.

These details highlight one of the differences between the Old and the New—the New covenant is personal, not corporate. It is a promise to each individual, not to any nation or group of people.

This discussion is followed by this completely demoralizing quote from Ellen White:

Through the right exercise of the will, an entire change may be made in your life. By yielding up your will to Christ, you ally yourself with the power that is above all principalities and pow­ers. You will have strength from above to hold you steadfast, and thus through constant surrender to God you will be enabled to live the new life, even the life of faith.”—Ellen G. White, Steps to Christ, p. 48

And the lesson follows that with a question: “What’s holding you back from experiencing what’s written here?”

Do you see that? There is no work of the Holy Spirit to give us a new heart; rather, it is “the right exercise of the will”. And, instead of a new heart put in us by the Holy Spirit, we are left with living the new life, albeit with some help. This makes the renewing of our hearts a work required of us, not a matter of faith and the work of the holy Spirit.

This is the point at which many of us just gave up as Adventiusts. We know, from the Law, that perfection is the only acceptable standard, and we know that we can never exercise enough “will” to meet that standard.

But that statement fits in with the Adventist belief, straight from Ellen White, that the Holy Spirit is just the available power behind any change for the good, but we are still responsible for making the change and living the “new life”. They don’t see that it is the Holy Spirit who gives us a new heart and renews us (Ps. 51:10) not our own actions by the “right exercise of the will”.

When we come to Christ, the Holy Spirit will show us habits and behaviors and thoughts that need to be changed. That was the whole point of the Law—not that by following these rules we can become changed, but rather that we are powerless to make ourselves right with God. That hopelessness drove us to the cross to accept pardon and new life for our dead spirits.

Then, once we go to the cross to find eternal life, why would we then turn back to the Law? It brings only death, so to go back to it is to go back to death.

The lesson goes on to reinforce this hopeless condition by quoting Paul and then tacking on a question:

This is a faithful saying and worthy of all acceptance, that Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners, of whom I am chief” (1 Tim. 1:15, NKJV). What was Paul’s hope, and how can we make it our own hope, as well?

Paul wasn’t talking about a hope of something in the future that could become true once he came to Christ. He was already in Christ, and his ‘hope’ was in the guaranteed promise of eternal life that was already his.

When we came to Christ, and the author is presumably speaking to people who are already saved, we know that hope as a fulfilled promise. If you don’t already have that hope—defined as trust or desiring something that is true—then you must seriously question whether you are saved and actually a member of the Body of Christ.

 

The Temple

From the lesson:

It was so central to their faith that the greatest tragedy occurred when Nebuchadnezzar tore down the temple and carried away the sacred objects.

This makes it sound like their faith was just a matter of temple services when that would reduce the faith of the people to mere actions. The services and sacrifices did not bring forgiveness for their sins but merely set them aside, setting aside the death penalty required by the law of God. By this relief of guilt, they were pointed forward to the ultimate Lamb sacrifice which would truly “take away the sins of the world”.

So, all that went on in the temple was important to them, but it was all supposed to be based on their faith in God and His promises, not the other way around. The actual tragedy was that they left God. That was why His presence left the tabernacle, as illustrated to Ezekiel in the vision recorded in Ezekiel 10. That is why He allowed the temple to be torn down. They had left Him, so He left their presence. †

Jeanie Jura
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6 comments

  1. Jeanie

    You made a statement at the beginning that I have always had difficulty understanding. “The Bible is quite clear that what God wrote on the stone with His finger, and which Moses later wrote on the replacement tablet…”

    I had thought that Exodus 34:1 (NKJV) says that “the Lord said to Moses, “Cut two tablets of stone like the first ones, and I will write on these tablets the words that were on the first tablets which you broke.”

    Here it it clearly saying that He, God will write, and says you, Moses broke.

    Then verses 27 and 28 say “Lord said to Moses, “Write these words, for according to the tenor of these words I have made a covenant with you and with Israel.” So he was there with the Lord forty days and forty nights; he neither ate bread nor drank water. And He wrote on the tablets the words of the covenant, the Ten Commandments.”

    Verse 27 was the instruction to Moses to write ALL these words, which go beyond the basic 10 commandments. It instructs Moses to write, but does not specify where to write – scroll or tablets.

    Then the last sentence “He wrote on the tablets” could either be Moses or God, but based on verse 1, it had to be God writing on the tablets.

    Please show me what I am missing.

    1. Thank you for your comment and question. I have been searching for an answer to that question myself.

      First, this is something that I have read many times but the finer details, such as just who ‘wrote’ always escaped my notice—until you asked.

      I know and firmly believe that the Bible is God’s infallible word and as such, it cannot lie or contradict itself. Having said that, how do we explain this apparent discrepancy?

      I don’t read or speak the languages in which the Bible was written, so it makes sense to me to ask someone who can read the original. So, I asked the question on the Chabad “Ask A Rabbi’ site.

      Here is how it went:

      My question:

      I use the New American Standard Bible.  My question is in Exodus 34.  In verse 1, G-d said “I will write the words”; then in verse 27, He told Moses “you write the words”.  So, in verse 28, when it says ‘he wrote the words, who was “he”–was it G-d or Moses who wrote?  And, a further question, was it just the 10 Commandments written on the stone tablets, or was it the entire covenant that was written at that time?

      The reply I got was this:

      Great questions!

      Basically, G-d wrote the Ten Commandments, and Moses wrote the other stuff (according to the Ramban, it was the words of the covenant from verse 10). When verse 28 says “He wrote”, it refers to G-d (see Ibn Ezra and Chizkuni on the verse).

      Let me know if you need any more information.
      Have a great day!

      Since coming out of Adventism, I am questioning all that I have been taught as I am not sure just what is true and what is just tradition. According to the tradition—or truth—I was taught, God wrote the 10 Commandments on the stone tablet and Moses wrote down all the other 603 commands which are the entire covenant. Those 603 were kept outside the Ark, on the side of it, while the stone tablets were kept inside the Ark itself.

      So I may have been wrong when I said that Moses wrote them on the second, replacement tablets. If so, I apologize for falling back into my Adventist education.

      I was always told that when our Bibles were translated from the original languages, the punctuation and capital letters were added as the original languages didn’t have such things. Again, I always accepted that as fact. Now, I don’t know but neither am I particularly concerned about it.

      The Bible has been authenticated by over 5,000 ‘documents’ that have been found over the years and I am sure that God stood watch over the process of producing what we now have to make sure that it is accurate.

      So, the original question of who wrote on the stone tablets? As far as we can tell, God did, while Moses wrote down the rest of the covenant. But whether God wrorte them or dictated them to Moses to write, we know that they all came from God Himself.

    2. Jeanie

      Thanks for your reply.

      Another question relating to entangling from Adventist thinking has been bothering me. We have always heard that the tablets with the TC were placed inside the ark whereas the book of the covenant was placed at the side of the ark. Adventists use this fact to emphasize the superiority and permanency of the TC.

      There are a few texts that can show that argument is not correct. However, there is one text whose significance I cannot understand.

      Rev 11:19 NKJV states that “Then the temple of God was opened in heaven, and the ark of His covenant was seen in His temple.”

      How do we answer the suggestion from Adventists that this shows that the ark, and consequently the tablets have been preserved in heaven and are still in force at the end of time? The text does not say “the tablets” but nowhere can I see where the tablets had been previously removed.

      Thanks

      Fred

    3. Fred,
      Thanks for keeping me on my toes! Even after years of disintangling myself, there are still little threads of Adventism remaining.

      As far as what was where in the Ark, I’m not sure what is true and what is just another SDAism. And I’m not sure it matters.

      When you understand that the Law—all 613 points of it—were a specific covenant with Israel and no one else, you begin to realize that as former Gentiles, now a new creation called the Body of Christ, we have no use for the Law.

      It’s purpose was to point out sin, to show us that sinful humans (all of us) are totally incapable of meeting God’s standard of perfect holiness; which then leads us to the cross where Jesus did it all for us. All we have to do is accept His gift by faith and let the Holy Spirit guide us.

      Adventism is so focused on the Law that they insert themselves into a covenant not meant for anyone but Israel and by doing so, they exclude themselves from the New Covenant in Jesus’ blood.

      As far as the text in Revelation, they way they use this is another indication of how fixated they are on the Law.

      Moses was told to make the tabernacle based on the pattern he was shown Ex. 25:40. I was always taught that it was an exact replica of something that physically existed in heaven.

      But when you look at Revelation 21 you see something different.

      First, John sees the Holy City coming down:

      2 And I saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God, made ready as a bride adorned for her husband.

      A little farther on, in describing the Holy City, John says this:

      22 I saw no temple in it, for the Lord God the Almighty and the Lamb are its temple.

      23 And the city has no need of the sun or of the moon to shine on it, for the glory of God has illumined it, and its lamp is the Lamb.

      If there is no temple in the Holy City, there is no Ark and if there is no Ark, there are no tablets of the (Old) Covenant. Verse 21 says that Jesus, not a physical structure, is the temple.

      But, says the Adventist, Isaiah 66 says that there will always be a Sabbath:

      23 And it shall come to pass, that from one new moon to another, and from one sabbath to another, shall all flesh come to worship before me, saith the Lord.

      But this can’t be heaven or during eternity. Just look at the next verse:

      24 And they shall go forth, and look upon the carcases of the men that have transgressed against me: for their worm shall not die, neither shall their fire be quenched; and they shall be an abhorring unto all flesh.

      The bodies of the dead won’t be in heaven or exist in eternity. This is describing life on earth during the Millennium, another contradiction made by Adventism which insists that the Millennium will be spent in heaven doing an audit of God’s bookkeeping to make sure He saved the right people.

      Back to Revelation. In saying that there will always be Sabbath, you have to ignore chapter 22:5 which says:

      5 And there shall be no night there; and they need no candle, neither light of the sun; for the Lord God giveth them light: and they shall reign for ever and ever.

      If there is no night there are no separate days. And if there are no separate days, how can there be a weekly Sabbath?

      My conclusion is this: what was kept in the ark and what was kept on the outside of the ark, if that was even true, is not relevant to us. We are not part of the covenant with Israel but are under the New Covenant. Our salvation is by faith in Jesus and His finished work, not by putting ourselves under a covenant not meant for us. As far as ‘answering’ Adventists who claim that the Ark of the Covenant was taken from earth to heaven, I’m not sure there is any answer they will accept. They have their theology firmly in hand, and take the parts of the Bible that seem to support what they already believe.

      Adventism has made all sorts of additions, subtractions, re-interpretations and outright contortions of the Bible to make it fit their own theology. They hold up the Law over the cross and try to impose Old Covenant theology onto the New. By doing that, they deny the full deity of Jesus and the finished work on the cross. They then add their own works to their salvation which defeats the whole purpose of the cross.

      I don’t know if I have answered your questions and I certainly don’t mean to disregard your concerns. I appreciate questions and discussions—they often point out those small threads of Adventism still buried in the back of my mind.

      If you want to continue the discussion, please don’t hesitate. I don’t claim to be an expert but I have had to do a lot of study, with the help of some very good Biblical scholars, to free myself from the insidious clutches of Adventism. And I find that discussing faith and doctrine helps to make it clearer to me and helps root out the little false ideas that lurk just out of sight.

      In your message, you said:

      “There are a few texts that can show that argument is not correct.  However, there is one text whose significance I cannot understand.”

      I would like to see those texts to follow up on this. I never really considered that aspect and would like to see what Scripture says.

      Thank you for your questions and insights.

      Jeanie

    4. Jeanie

      Thanks for giving me some direction on this.

      I enjoy your weekly commentaries on the SS lesson. I look forward to reading them without fail every week, and I learn a lot from your deep insight into what the Bible is saying versus what is characterized in the SS lessons.

      Please keep doing it. I know it is a labor of love. Your work makes a difference, and I appreciate it.

      As to the texts I have used when I have answered my Adventist friends on the issue of the tablets versus the book, I have pointed to the following three passages:

      1. Matt 5:17-48, where Jesus stated that He did not come to destroy the Law and the Prophets, but to fulfill them, and then He goes on to expand on the commandments. In His expansion He chose two from the Ten Commandments and three from the Book of the Law, showing that He did not create a segregation or a hierarchy in what has since been separated into the Moral versus Ceremonial Law. He considered them a unified whole and that one was not subservient to the other.

      2. Matt 22:34-40, where Jesus was asked about the great commandment in the Law. He could have chosen from the Ten Commandments – have no other gods before Me, or even the Sabbath commandment, but He chose the Book of the Law to outline the two greatest commandments and even went so far as to state that on these two, hang ALL the Law and the Prophets. Quite interesting, I say to my Adventist friend, that He was choosing from the contents of the Book – at the side of the ark, over the tablets – inside the ark. Mark, relating the same incident in Mark 12:28-31, stated that the questioner asked Jesus which was the foremost of all the commandments. Jesus gave His answer, then ended by saying that there is NO OTHER commandment greater than these.

      3. Paul writing in 2 Cor 3:7-11, refers to what was written and engraved on tablets of stone (the ten commandments inside the ark) was a ministry of death, a ministry of condemnation, and that ministry, as glorious as it was in the day, has been surpassed by the ministry of the Spirit.

      4. One more thing my friends have said – the Ten Commandments were written with the actual finger of God, and it was so important, that He Himself re-wrote it on the replacement tablets – showing the significance God placed on His written law on the tablets.

      I have replied that they seem to be placing some significance on what God wrote as supremely more important than what He said. I reply somewhat tongue in cheek, that Matt 4:4 says that man shall live by every word that proceeds from the mouth of God, not necessarily His finger. I say that facetiously, to break the tension that has certainly been building up to that point in the conversation. More seriously, I return to the point that the first significant command God gave was to Adam to not eat of the fruit. God could have written it, but it was spoken. And there are numerous commands God has spoken, sustained disregard of which will ultimately lead to the same consequence – eternal death. So there is no biblical accuracy in saying that what God wrote was supremely important.

      The responses I have received from my friends were feeble at best, and nonsensical. But they have not been able to subvert the clear message in the Word.

      Fred

  2. Fred,
    Thank you for your generous comments. It is good to know that someone is being helped by this website.
    It is a labor of love and I am still surprised that i am doing the commenting. It’s so unlike me and it has pulled me out of my comfort zone. It also has made me study and learn much more than I ever would have if I didn’t make the effort.
    I don’t care if i get acknowledgement for the effort, I just pray that God can use it to help anyone who is searching and learning. I was 3rd gen. Adventist on both sides of my family and went all the way through school in SDA schools. After I left the church, and then later came to understand the pure gospel, I used to wonder why God let me have all that “bible” training which seemed to be without any use. Now I see that He was preparing me to be able to talk to those who have come out of Adventism and those who are still mired in the system. I am learning what is eventually learned by anyone who does any kind of teaching–the ‘teacher’ learns as much, if not more, than those being ‘taught’.
    So again, thank you and keep studying and learning. I am finding that there is always more to learn about God and His love for us.
    Jeanie

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